yeah- there's also the thing that very early on, the more r'nb-style stuff got distributed to jong and onu mostly bc they could go there, and also to key even tho he wasn't the stablest; the taemin boner thing is complicating things bc taemin has such a distinctive voice TOO now, but way more of a pop sound- all four of them sound good with more rock sound songs but sm are so SO bad at giving them good enough material; we haven't even begun to talk about minho

so yeah, messss